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	<title>Comments on: Fignon: jeune et insouciant</title>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://le-grimpeur.net/blog/archives/117/comment-page-1#comment-57473</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Jack - yes, a real shame to read those comments. As a boy I was always a huge fan of Fignon and it&#039;s disappointing to find that out. 

All I would say is that having read his book, you wouldn&#039;t get that impression at all - quite the reverse, he writes with great fondness of cycling in Colombia and of his respect for the Colombian cyclists. Which I guess you can read as either that he was just trying to psyche out the new guys in the 80s, or more likely that he now regrets what he said. It&#039;s a very good read in any case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Jack &#8211; yes, a real shame to read those comments. As a boy I was always a huge fan of Fignon and it&#8217;s disappointing to find that out. </p>
<p>All I would say is that having read his book, you wouldn&#8217;t get that impression at all &#8211; quite the reverse, he writes with great fondness of cycling in Colombia and of his respect for the Colombian cyclists. Which I guess you can read as either that he was just trying to psyche out the new guys in the 80s, or more likely that he now regrets what he said. It&#8217;s a very good read in any case.</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
		<link>http://le-grimpeur.net/blog/archives/117/comment-page-1#comment-53153</link>
		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just found the quote from
cyclinginquisition.blogspot.com:

Jimenez remembered that Laurent Fignon was hard to deal with, and openly disliked the Colombian team:

&quot;He was extremely unpleasant to us. I remember a journalist asking him what he thought of us (Colombians) and he said we were from an inferior race. I remember him purposefully throwing elbows in the peloton, and speaking badly of us during stages. It was for that reason that we kept attacking him in the mountains. Even still, the fucker won the tour that year.&quot;

shame laurant. shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just found the quote from<br />
cyclinginquisition.blogspot.com:</p>
<p>Jimenez remembered that Laurent Fignon was hard to deal with, and openly disliked the Colombian team:</p>
<p>&#8220;He was extremely unpleasant to us. I remember a journalist asking him what he thought of us (Colombians) and he said we were from an inferior race. I remember him purposefully throwing elbows in the peloton, and speaking badly of us during stages. It was for that reason that we kept attacking him in the mountains. Even still, the fucker won the tour that year.&#8221;</p>
<p>shame laurant. shame.</p>
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		<title>By: strangelife</title>
		<link>http://le-grimpeur.net/blog/archives/117/comment-page-1#comment-53152</link>
		<dc:creator>strangelife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 06:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fignon, or Filet Mignon, as we used to call him, was one of my favorites of that era. Quintessentially French, unapologetic, and hopelessly dramatic. He was the perfect rider for the time.

I&#039;ll be on the lookout for the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fignon, or Filet Mignon, as we used to call him, was one of my favorites of that era. Quintessentially French, unapologetic, and hopelessly dramatic. He was the perfect rider for the time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be on the lookout for the book.</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
		<link>http://le-grimpeur.net/blog/archives/117/comment-page-1#comment-53141</link>
		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>growing up i had no love for fignon, but no hate either. i started watching the tour in &#039;86 as a 10 year old and lemond was my man, followed by herrera, millar and riders like rooks and thernise. in the innocence of it all i also like hinault and was oblivious to the internal fighting between the two la vie claire greats.

when lemond won by 8 in &#039;89 i was stoked, not because fignon had lost, but because the open, candid aero-bike riding greg had won. lemond really was a gutsy rider.

however, looking back with what i know now, my feelings for fignon have soured. through reading the excellent cyclinginquisition blog, i now know that he was a bully and a racist, constantly telling the columbian riders they had no place in the pro peleton and making derogitory comments about their dark skin.

such a shame to discover a cycling great was a bigot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>growing up i had no love for fignon, but no hate either. i started watching the tour in &#8217;86 as a 10 year old and lemond was my man, followed by herrera, millar and riders like rooks and thernise. in the innocence of it all i also like hinault and was oblivious to the internal fighting between the two la vie claire greats.</p>
<p>when lemond won by 8 in &#8217;89 i was stoked, not because fignon had lost, but because the open, candid aero-bike riding greg had won. lemond really was a gutsy rider.</p>
<p>however, looking back with what i know now, my feelings for fignon have soured. through reading the excellent cyclinginquisition blog, i now know that he was a bully and a racist, constantly telling the columbian riders they had no place in the pro peleton and making derogitory comments about their dark skin.</p>
<p>such a shame to discover a cycling great was a bigot.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://le-grimpeur.net/blog/archives/117/comment-page-1#comment-53077</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 08:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst on the subject of books in French, I&#039;ve just read an excellent account of doping in athletics (&quot;nice&quot; to know that cycling really isn&#039;t the only sport with a wide-spread, high-level problem!).

&quot;Ma course en enfer&quot; (My race through hell) by Fouad Chouki, a 1500m runner who came fourth in the 2003 World Championships before being disqualified for EPO doping. A really fascinating insight into the motivations and pressures of top-level athletics and the pervasiveness of doping, which, if Chouki is to be believed, seems at least as prevelant as in cycling (but rather less publicised...)

I&#039;d say it&#039;s the best book I&#039;ve read on the subject (and I&#039;ve read most of them - Massacre à la chaine, Rough Ride, LA Confidential etc.) and a good book in its own right. Chouki comes across as a decent guy who found himself in a situation basically outside his control.

Highly recommended, and certainly deserves to be translated into English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst on the subject of books in French, I&#8217;ve just read an excellent account of doping in athletics (&#8220;nice&#8221; to know that cycling really isn&#8217;t the only sport with a wide-spread, high-level problem!).</p>
<p>&#8220;Ma course en enfer&#8221; (My race through hell) by Fouad Chouki, a 1500m runner who came fourth in the 2003 World Championships before being disqualified for EPO doping. A really fascinating insight into the motivations and pressures of top-level athletics and the pervasiveness of doping, which, if Chouki is to be believed, seems at least as prevelant as in cycling (but rather less publicised&#8230;)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s the best book I&#8217;ve read on the subject (and I&#8217;ve read most of them &#8211; Massacre à la chaine, Rough Ride, LA Confidential etc.) and a good book in its own right. Chouki comes across as a decent guy who found himself in a situation basically outside his control.</p>
<p>Highly recommended, and certainly deserves to be translated into English.</p>
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